THE GIFT OF ISLAM..

Those Islamists who detonate themselves in order to kill as many people as possible in as merciless a manner as possible are surely the personification of evil. That a section of Islam admires such monsters is a direct challenge to that so-called religion (or pathology, if you prefer) but surely those of us who oppose the death cult of self detonation should be swift to condemn the killers and to highlight the calculated barbarism carried out by this legion of the damned in the name of Islam.

But when I read the daily litany of some Jihadist detonating themselves in Islamistan, such as this one that happened in Kabul, I believe that those who report the story are almost glorifying the brutal act and plainly using it to enforce their own leftist agenda ie We have to get our military OUT of there - right now - since we can't stop the suicide bombers.  They are winners and we are losers. It's an obvious leftist subtext.

Of course we can't stop all the suicide bombers. These people are quite happy to blow themselves into eternity, taking as many Muslims/Christians/Jews/Atheists with them as possible. The media presents each suicide bombing as a success and a blow against Bush. And in doing so, it feeds the enthusiasm of those Islamic deviants who inculcate the death cult into their young and impressionable people.

I'm not sure how you deal with the suicide bombers. Killing them before they detonate is obviously the first line of defence. But should our military also not be identifying the households from which they come and then punish them? As it is, those Islamic households who produce self-detonators enjoy prestige and hero-worship when their kids commit mass murder. Maybe they need to enjoy a little bit of incarceration so they learn that life as the host of a self detonator is not a blast?

Suicide bombing is an act of grotesque evil. Those who carry it out are evil. It shows how primitive and violent the enemy is. Our media should be exposing this cowardly aspect of the Jihad but it prefers to almost admire the bravery of the self detonators. From Cherie Blair to Jenny Tonge, the UK's leftist intelligentsia sympathises with these self detonating monsters and the culture that hero worships the Shahids. So perhaps we cannot be too surprised when the MSM also chooses to indirectly tip the hat their way.

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[Frank O'Dwyer]

the link is broken David

[David Vance]

Frank,

Thx - will fix.

[Cunningham]

>>But should our military also not be identifying the households from which they come and then punish them?<<

Right. "Sippenhaft" the Nazis used to call it.

[David Vance]

Cunningham,

Since Godwin's Law does not run here, I'll deal with that point. Households who produce self detonators are rather more than collaborators - they too are the enemy and deserve to be treated as such. Common sense it is called.

[Ray Newton]

" O wad some Power the gift tae gie us
To see oorsels as ithers see us!
It wad frae monie a wrang turn free us
an foolish notion:(Burns)

So, someone who, from thousands of feet in the air well away from harm, drops napalm, or cluster bombs that lie around for years killing and maiming innocents is a 'good guy'(white hat). Then, he returns to base, perhaps even gets a medal.
His family, and country, see him as 'their hero' son'

The next day he goes out again, and does the same thing with little fear the enemy can hit back and that he won't return - they have no airforce.

Every day kids in these war zones the West has created — recently Iraq, and Lebanon, innocents, especially children who will pick up anything looking unusual are being killed and maimed.

Yet, you, or some of you, see the person who's side has no planes, no tanks, and few weapons in which to defend his way of life is prepared to go out knowing he, or she, won't come back, in order to strike back at the enemy, as evil.

What a bigoted view that echoes the views of those who want to perpetrate hate because it blinds and keeps the focus from the real problems, and the problem creators. No wonder we have suicide bombers.

Americans will be familiar with a popular cartoon character of some years ago called POGO, by the late Walt Kelly.

It featured the antics of a group of swamp characters of the South headed by their leader - Pogo. One of the famous catch phrases was ' 'We have seen the enemy, and he is us'.

[David Vance]

Ray,

What nonsense. To deliberately set out to detonate yourself at a wedding party, a disco, a bus stop, an underground train station - is OBSCENE.

[Parnell]

Tried posting this earlier.

These psychopaths must think we owe them something, we most certainly do - tough hard lesson’s in reality. Brainwashing the fanatical followers of islamistan with religious martyrdom’s supposed greater things in the after life complete with the adoration of the leaders of Islamic evil cold prove the prime motivator. Islam is the personification of evil, on that there is no doubt. However the question remains, How can fanatical religeous leader's teach murder and self destruction is all for the greater good?. They can't and don't believe that, what they do believe in is the oxygen of publicity; they bask in the glorification of self destruction, complete with the consequence’s, but not their own - that would be to much to ask, on some idiotic brain-washed Islamic idiot, instead. We in the West should ask ourselves, If suicide bombers were denied access to our media, to shock, to instill fear or to satisfy some perverted blood coursity would they seriously continue to send their insane sheep to the slaughter without some payback in column inchs, sound-bytes or 20 second tele-visual clips. Islam can keep its gift - in fact - they can stuff its gift where the sun won't shine.

[daytripper]

heres a nugget of interesting information.

Ahmadinejad was invited to speak at the Council of Foriegn Relations. Richard N. Haas, CFRs president is quoted as saying:

"Did we learn anything? I heard three things of considerable interest. Ahmadinejad said that Iran was open to cooperating to stabilize Iraq; that Iran believed it had a right to enrich uranium but that, for religious reasons, it was prohibited from having nuclear weapons; and that Iran is open to having relations with the United States if Washington is prepared to take the initiative."

[Alan McDonald]

David,

I read the piece you link to, Suicide bomber strikes in Kabul. Please explain how those who report the story are almost glorifying the brutal act and plainly using it to enforce their own leftist agenda.

[Ray Newton]

David,

Your bigoted, that is one sided, view, is why he/she is doing it. He/she is striking back at YOU, his perceived enemy.

With your views he/she hears, or sees, expressed (they read these discussions)he/she sees no difference between those in uniform, and those who support those in uniform who are killing them and their families.

Don't blame your government in a democracy, they are there only to represent you, YOU put them there, or the 'majority' consensus of opinion did.

Until you learn to understand that people acting in, to them a justified cause, do not give up their lives for a moments fun, or out of boredom.

With your views, we have it, and it will continue. We will live with 'terrorism' for a long time. And if the fire starts to die down, and we become less fearful, I am certain there are organisations supported by our establishment that will ensure more fuel is put on the fire.

No you don't like what I say. You would much prefer I say lets put everyone that looks the type up against the wall an shoot them.

Burn down their homes, kill their families, in fact, gass them all.

Well, it's been said and done before.

David, look at your hand when you point your finger, unless you are deficient a digit you will observe there are always three pointing back.

[Monica-Philadelphia]

We absolutely cannot withdraw troops from there right now. If that choice were to be made, it would be the creation of a taliban state all over again. Pakistan has already ceded waziristan over to the taliban and has promised much boot licking in the hopes of not being attacked by the islamic fascists. It won't work - it's already been spat upon by the moslem fanatics.

I am sorry to say - we must stay and continue routing out terrorists and killing them. It's a crap job but it's got to be done. It doesn't help that there are so many pussies in the world - musharref for one.

[Monica-Philadelphia]

Ray Newton - open your eyes and stop sounding like a teenager majoring in psychology. Your silly statements sound nice, but it won't solve this pesky little problem those of us dealing with reality are facing at this time.

(the three fingers pointing thing was hilarious - lol!) Oh - I know. Let's pay the tribute to the fanatic fascists. Maybe then they'll leave us alone.

[Cunningham]

>> we must stay and continue routing out terrorists and killing them. It's a crap job but it's got to be done.<<

Monica,
Since when is kiling terrorists a crap job? Why, just 3 years ago it was a great job, I seem to remember!

[David Vance]

Ray,

I've got a better idea. Let's all chant Give Peace a Chance and just show some lurve to each other and then all will be well.

Alan,

OK. Two aspects;

1. The fact that an Islamic self detonater selected a gate where other Muslims gathered to do their day's business is ignored. Try the headline "Islamic killer targets Muslims" if you seek accuracy, since that is exactly what happened.

2. The BBC reports "It is the latest in a number of explosions in Kabul this year, despite high security in the capital." No. It is the latest in a series of Jihad attacks by Al Queda/Taliban seeking to strangle democracy in this country. The BBC does not explain if this "explosions" were carried out by terrorists. It can't - since it does not recognise the term terrorist.

3. The BBC talks about "the bomber". It refuses to call the man by his proper name -a Taliban self detonator.

In my view, language is part of the war. The BBC and its fellow travellers on the left use language that conveys a nobility of these savages that appalls me. They are not "bombers" "insurgents" or anything else. They are Islamic self detonators who seek to murder as many people as possible.

In WW2, the Nazis were not described by the media as being patriotic Germans (Not sure about the New York Times admittedly) - they were called a fascist evil and our media realised that they could not be neutral - they had to be on OUR side. Same things prevails today - except the MSM oppose us. They hate Bush - and themselves so much - that they report each suicide bombing with relish - it PROVES Bush is wrong and that's alway's right. Such is the moral sewer the MSM inhabit.

[Daniel Bright]

I agree with DV, the BBC harps on about the chaos in Iraq, but never once mentions (loudly enough) that it is caused by muslim-on-muslim violence!

It [the BBC] just assumes (and the left takes it as doctrine) that 50 deaths a day are naturally caused by the americans, and Israel aswell no doubt. Not once does it cross anyone's minds that, if pressed, muslims will kill eachother if no one else is available. So yes I do agree with "Pogo", he illustrates Islam's mentality perfectly.

[Ray Newton]

the three fingers pointing thing was hilarious - lol!)

Monica,

I have observed many times that when faced with the truth that touches a nerve, people often react with laughter - it's nervous laughter to hide their guilt, and embarrassment.

I have also observed many teenagers (long since passed for me)in particular ones for whom the study of human behaviour, referred to as Psychology, have shown a far greater understanding of life, and reality than you, and a few others are showing here.

Perhaps you may learn something by observing, both sides, instead of scoffing, and dismissing so readily.

Had you done so, the positioning of the fingers of the hand when pointing would have not been so much of a revelation at your time of life.

[Alan McDonald]

David,

Thank you for the explanation. When you say, In my view, language is part of the war, that sums up your complaint. Reporters must eschew objectivity in favor of jingoism in order to prove that they are not jihadist collaborators.

[David Vance]

Reporters have to decide which side they are on. It's a war, Alan, didn't you get the memo? One can be objective - and objectively, self detonators that kill innocent Muslims should be described as such - rather than "bombers"!

[daytripper]

The fact that an Islamic self detonater selected a gate where other Muslims gathered to do their day's business is ignored. Try the headline "Islamic killer targets Muslims" if you seek accuracy, since that is exactly what happened.

the very fact that it was a bomb attack against civilians indicates to anyone and everyone that it was a terrorist act. the very fact that afghanistan is a muslim country means that anyone with a brain can draw the correct assumption that the violence was directed against muslims. everyone knows the majority of violence is muslim on muslim, and stating the bleeding obvious is pointless. especially in every article.

The BBC reports "It is the latest in a number of explosions in Kabul this year, despite high security in the capital." No. It is the latest in a series of Jihad attacks by Al Queda/Taliban seeking to strangle democracy in this country. The BBC does not explain if this "explosions" were carried out by terrorists. It can't - since it does not recognise the term terrorist.

strange because the very same article is quote as saying "A Taleban spokesman has claimed responsibility for the bombing."

The BBC talks about "the bomber". It refuses to call the man by his proper name -a Taliban self detonator.

read the headline. if they had called him a heroic resistance fighter yould have a point.

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im afraid, as usual, you are talking out your be-hind. and all you really want to hear is politically charged propaganda about how all muslims are a risk to the west and your way of life. long live the BBC.

[David Vance]

Daytripper,

We have already established where you stand on the war on terrorism. Stop cheeping.

[Ray Newton]

New book to be released on Monday -"STATE OF DENIAL" by the respected journalist and writer, Bob Woodward (very well known and respected Stateside)will hit the Bush administration hard.

But Bush is too dumb to know he is dumb. He will just continue with his idiotic grin. And life will go on (except for his poor bloody troops for whom many will never see another Thanksgiving, or Christmas, or, ever again, kiss the green green grass of home. (but, they will help it to grow in little plots around the land, that's something I suppose)

Their continuing, mounting, deaths, and maimings, daily are being covered up. This is not to hide the truth from the enemy because they KNOW.

The American people must not learn the truth.

Anyway, that should make many of you here happy that you have such an understanding
president that backed by the blood thirsty
crime boss Kissenger (who hands him his daily script) has made a once loved, and respected, nation into one mistrusted and feared like one would fear a car with a drunk crazed driver at the wheel, his foot hard down to the floor driving towards a school zone at school-out time.

[Peter]

DV,
Censorship of the media, which is what you appear to be calling for, is unacceptable in a democracy. The BBC report was factual, nothing more.

Ray Newton'
I agree that Woodward's book will cause Bush and his cronies a lot of trouble. Watch out for the attack dogs of the republican right being unleashed big-time. Can't see the book getting a fair review on Fox News somehow.

[Ray Newton]

Peter.

It will be most interesting to see how this book is received by media, and public. Unfortunately we can only tell what the public think from the media and they can manipulate their presentation of what the public think. They merely interview their selected people and invite them to their organised talk shows.

It is the more interesting in the light of other recent exposures, for instance by the Central Intelligence Agency.

It could well be that Bush, the puppet, has served his purpose, and has now become an embarrassment. The Puppeteers perhaps see the need for a new puppet to dance to their tune.

Well its that time of the year for exciting things to happpen. The financial markets are waiting for, and expecting, something.

[David Vance]

Woodward's a joke! Get real, lefties.

[Monica-Philadelphia]

Killing terrorists was never a great job - I have never said that. It's a crap job. Nasty.

There you go again Ray. lol! Keep it coming. What else do you have up your sleeve?