It seemed like a perfectly reasonable suggestion to me as it would to most people - except Muslims. Then again, Muslims aren't reasonable. Home Secretary, John Reid, travelled to an Islamic ghetto in east London and implored parents to ensure their children weren't becoming radicalised in any one of the 2 zillion or so mosques that now blight our urban landscapes. Protestor, Abu Izzadeen had the temerity to ask the Home Secretary how he dared 'come to a Muslim area'. I have some corrective advice for Izzadeen: there are no 'Muslim areas' in this country, only British areas where anyone of whatever creed or colour who has a cultural and sentimental allegiance to this country (something 90% of Muslims know sod all about) has a perfect right to visit. Whatever faults John Reid has he is British, professes pride in his nationality, and has a hell of a greater right to travel anywhere in his own land than the morons bedecked in 250 yards of parachute panelling who heckled him.
We live in a world where nobody is allowed to say 'boo' to a bacon sandwich where Islam is concerned. Yet adherents of that so-called religion are allowed to threaten, heckle, issue death threats against the leader of the world's largest Christian sect, make pithy excuses about foreign policy to excuse and justify terrorism and, most infuriatingly of all, show not the slightest inclination to integrate into the society that has bent over backwards to accommodate their every demand. A Muslim scholar (didn't catch the name, but I'm sure it had sixty 'q's and 'z's in it) spoke on Radio 4 to declare the Muslim religion prohibits informing on fellow brethren. Good heavens, isn't it amazing what Islam prohibits when it is convenient? Did anyone see a recent holiday programme which features a Hindu family from Birmingham (can't remember what it was called)? The father sported an England football shirt and slacks; the mother wore a very fetching trouser-suit and blouse; the two children were wearing Western-style clothing. They looked as British as you or I - something the vast majority of Muslims have no intention of ever doing.
I am now of the belief that Muslims should only live in Muslim countries. Their whole lifestyle and way of thinking is so far removed from everybody else's on the planet that they render themselves incapable of living in host societies without, at the very least, seeking the cultural destruction of those same societies and, at worst, aiming for conquest by the facilitation of terrorism. John Reid should have been more forthright: either integrate or get the hell out of here!!
Andrew
I am now of the belief that Muslims should only live in Muslim countries.
Muslims tend to agree. But their solution is to turn our countries into Muslim countries.
It is manifestly foolish for non-Islamic states to allow the population of Muslims to reach the level where there demands change the nature of the society.
Right now the fastest growing religion in Europe by immigration, by birth-rate and by conversion is Islam.
Immigration should be stopped immediately. Expulsion should be routine for illegal activity. Muslim schools should not be recognised. Muslim dress forced on women should be considered incompatible with a free society and it is reasonable to assume that it is forced in most cases.
Those alleged devout women who still want to wear it should be devout enough to go where it is acceptable.
It is of course fine in a free society to heckle a minister but a free society is a two-way street.
Free speech for Islamic hecklers but none for the Pope, none for Salman Rushdie and none for cartoonists is an unacceptable proposition. We have to reject it.
Posted by: Henry94 | September 21, 2006 at 09:00 AM
There are a lot of Muslims in Waltham Forest but it isn't a "Muslim area", or it certainly wasn't at the last census.
Posted by: Justme | September 21, 2006 at 09:23 AM
you lot might be interested to note the total u-turn being taken on gaskinbalrog.com ( a sinn fein/ira supporters blog with strong support for the anti-semtie line of the international left) regarding muslim activism now that they have turned on a certain german fellow.....
Posted by: jaun | September 21, 2006 at 05:31 PM
"with strong support for the anti-semtie line of the international left"
Jaun,
A somewhat sweeping generalisation there. Why don't you go one further and join Felix in calling it the "Fascist Neo-left"?!
Personally, I think it should be called the international communo-fascist, neo-anti-semite, islamorepublican dhimmi-left.
Posted by: Reg | September 21, 2006 at 05:55 PM
There's no doubt that the muslims must be returned to their own lands, before they turn ours into the sh*t-holes from which they came.
It is noteworthy that whenever one of the wannabee-dhimmis who post on this site mention how islam has contributed to humanity, they have to cite some obscure item over 600 years ago, and a disputed one at that.
No doubts exist as to who drove the scientific and engineering achievements since the renaissance - a visit to the Patent office will settle that.
Posted by: [email protected] | September 21, 2006 at 08:45 PM
Here is an overview of the treatment of Christians and other non-Muslims in Muslim countries.
http://tinyurl.com/ocrl3
Posted by: Henry94 | September 22, 2006 at 08:27 AM