Chicanery!

Chicanery is something you'd automatically link to despots in Third World countries than the government of the United Kingdom.  For example, I recently read a book on Robert Mugabe and the methods he has employed in Zimbabwe.  Did you know that the Mugabe government has deliberately starved hospitals in the country of cash so that corpses are retained until such time as members of an increasingly impoverished populace can afford to settle their relatives' medical bills?  Were you also aware that Mugabe is prohibiting the importation of grain to ease starvation so that he can continue his policy of 'indigenising the economy' by opening up land to criminal elements of Zimbabwean society in a nepotistic drive to ensure 'his people' are the ones who inherit agricultural land abandoned by white farmers?

We don't see chicanery of that level here in Britain.  Or do we?  In my mind the disgusting attempt to extort money from the middle classes of Ulster society in order that they put pressure on Unionist parties to sit in government with terrorists is almost in the same league.  In the same way that highwaymen used to say 'hands up, your money or your life', Peter Hain is effectively saying 'hands up, your money or your province'.  For make no mistake, admission of republicans to Stormont will give them carte blanche to gradually destabilise and destroy the Province as part and parcel of the United Kingdom.

This rates system is sooooo Old Labour.  It allows them to steal money from those whom they most detest - i.e. those who have prospered under their own initiative, and the theft will occur predominantly from a section of the United Kingdom public the Left so love to hate - the British population of Northern Ireland.  Will it work?  Nope!!  The 'garden centre Prods' will only ever come out in a constitutional referendum; they will never again cast votes in a sectarianised political system.  Middle class they may be, but they also have the same steely determination not to subordinate themselves to blackmail.  In the latter regard, they are quintessentially Unionist, whatever their opinions of the political process and parties.  Several months ago I said Hain's ultimate wish would be to damage Northern Ireland as much as possible in line with his closet republicanism.  All he will end up doing is currying more personal hatred than he has hitherto.  Still, when you're a thick-skinned republican Lefty 'white nigger', with the conscience of a dung beetle, I don't suppose you really care what people think about you.

Comments

[Mardy Bum]

So you're making a comparison between the changes in rates to a murderous regime led by a fascist despot.

O........K.......

[Armaghlite]

Andrew whatever your disagreements with him - that is one thing. But using the N word?

You let yourself down.

'white nigger'

Andrew that is highly offensive to decent, properly brought-up people. Please stick to using gutter terms like that (if you must)in the privacy of your own home.

[Mardy Bum]

To be fair, Andrew was quoting from Elvis Costello's "Oliver's Army" and therefore shouldn't be castigated for the use of the term which was entirely in context.

The Mugabe comparison is however and will remain a monumentally stupid one to make.

[Gracey]

"Still, when you're a thick-skinned republican Lefty 'white nigger', with the conscience of a dung beetle, I don't suppose you really care what people think about you"

If you swapped 'Republican Lefty' for 'Facist Loonie' - he would be very accurately describing himself !!

[Andrew McCann]

Sorry to upset the ultra-sensitive brigade - NOT!

The term features in Oliver's Army and is used in this context to highlight the dabble in chicanery between Hain and Mugabe, notwithstanding the differences in intensity.

Funny how it is not offensive when black rap artists say it. Some are more Orwellian in equality than others.

[Armaghlite]

Andrew, without being ultra sensitive - the N word is unnaceptable whether it be Black or White people that use it (I have no idea what colour you are as I have never seen you)

I understand if you were quoting but it seems as if you likened Hain to Mugabe and then described Hain as a "white N" meaning that Mugabe is an N.

It is not ultra sensitive, and I can actually see your point about Hain and the rates etc (which I now have to pay)But we can make a point without going down to the lowest common denominator.

[Andrew McCann]

Gracey

I wasn't aware you knew me so well (LOL)!

Or perhaps you don't, and simply wanted to to vent your frustrations stupidly disguised as contributive comment.

[Colm]

This doesn't make sense. What has increased rates got to do with whether people vote or not or even if they are unionist or not. How will increasing the rates make apathetic voters go out and vote for pro-agreement parties. It's not as if those 'middle classes' who do vote are paying less than non-voters.

Besides, Andrew I would have thought you would be keen on non-voting unionists being persuaded to get out and vote.

[Andrew McCann]

Armaghlite

Hain is the lowest common denominator. Thankfully, political correctness on terminology hasn't entered my house - and nor will it do so.

If 'nigger' is good enough for Agatha Christie and Joseph Conrad, it's good enough for me.

[mahons]

Your use of the n word and sad justification is consistent with your usual posts and another example why you automatically moved to fifth place intellectually upon the addition of three additional contributors to ATW.

[jaun]

Andrew I really wish you would stop representing the unionist community, we have no time for those how would exploit our plight as an outlet for their own degeneracy, if you must call people niggers, at the very least don't drag our community into the muck with you, take your shite to Yorkshire if they welcome it there.
I would like to apologise to anyone offended by Andrews remarks and would remind people that this mans representation of unionism is in a personal capacity and that he is not an endorsed representative, and withstanding the racism that exists in all societies, we the Protestant and Unionist people of Northern Ireland do not subscribe to any racist philosophy, any and all people are welcome in our churches and to our fellowship.

[Armaghlite]

Jaun,

Many of my neighbours and indeed one of my closest friends are all decent hard working Protestant - while we never discuss politics I know that they are Unionists and they know I am a Nationalist and I know that none of them would ever lower themselves to that and I also know that Andrew's posts are in no way representative of my Unionist neighbours here in NI.

[Andrew McCann]

Juan

Cut out the thumb-sucking. It reddens the mouth.

Mahons

Are you Gracey's doppleganger? Waltzing in the auditorium of mediocrity?

[LoyalSubject]

Andrew,

Jaun was not thumb sucking - he had a very relevant point. You are sometimes a major embarrasment to Unionists.

You are, at times, Racist, crass, crudely anti-Irish - playing up to the untrue streotype that Unionists think they are superior.

While many of us are grateful that you would stand by the Unionist cause, you are, at this point an embarrasment.

Please Stop.

[Stu]

It's okay for me to be a honky over this side of the ocean; I don't mind, and perhaps you should have referred to Hain as a wigger.

[Mardy Bum]

Stu- the man's Cuprinol brown- ain't nuthin' white about him.

[Stu]

Like a wannabe nigger? That's cool.

[mahons]

Andrew:
You seem particularly aggrieved today. Did the postman not deliver your KKK Magazine subscription?

[jaun "romper roy" pablo]

thats a very sensible statement with a name like that aramghlite. cheers for the confirmation and to be nice i can say my catholic friends neighbours and realatives dont use words like that either,
most people inour part of the world were raised better.

andrew i suck my thumb only for the purposes of homosexual roleplay.......

[Andrew McCann]

Stu

Funny that. I'm a honky too. All we whites are honkies. I don't find that term offensive and wouldn't do so if Nelson Mandela called me a honky.

Still, the thicker the skin - white or black - the smaller the chip on the shoulder.

[Andrew McCann]

Oh my, the ubiquitous KKK references again. Nil points for originality.

[Mardy Bum]

"Still, the thicker the skin - white or black - the smaller the chip on the shoulder."

And the penis too one can only assume.

[mahons]

Andrew, I have to keep it simple so you'll understand.

[Colm]

I bet poor Andrew is regretting using that phrase now. Not necessarily because he accepts the arguments aginst it's use but becuase it has caused such a fuss and detracted from the substance of his thread.