PAEDOPHILES NEED LOVE?

I remember that ATW had a bit of a run-in with leftist moonbat Johann Hari when he showed his lunar ignorance of Northern Ireland affairs, a little while ago, and we had to put him straight. So I was intrigued to read that Johann's finely developed moral compass leads him to conclude that paedophiles need support, help, assistance - not persecution! Or Justice. Here's a sample of his liberal nonsense...

"If this was really about protecting kids, the government would be sticking to the evidence and offering the majority of paedophiles who want to go straight far more support and therapy."

Memo to Johann - Paedophiles are depraved vermin who prey on kids.

I quite liked this answer to the problem they represent....

"Paedophiles admit themselves that they will reoffend. They can't help themselves. It's an overwhelming desire within them that drives them to such monstrosities. However, it is possible that they are repentant, and that prison is extremely unmerciful for Paedophiles. As such, they should be released from prison after their sentence is complete, and into full -time residential Psychiatric care, like a sealed community, into which no innocent children must ever venture. It will remain a prison because it must be secure, but it will contain only child-molesters. Psychiatric help should be available to these individuals as it may be that they have traumatic pasts themselves, but they should never, ever be released into society - ours or another.

It is true that this will rely on the tax-payer's money, but who would rather they roamed the streets amongst our children, grandchildren, nieces and nephews than we paid a few extra quid to keep them locked away?

P.S. Castration is a good idea in theory, but they still have hands and mouths... (sorry to be distasteful, but it's an ugly truth...)

Comments

[pacman]

It surprises me on my occasional visits here that I find an article on which we are agreed upon. Must be hope for the future.;)

I've always favoured castration for these vermin - I understand the point regarding hands and mouths but I always assumed castration removed the sexual urge from the individual?

However, the idea of a sealed community is novel but I can think of a different kind of sealing which involves a wooden box with handles and six feet of earth. Best place for all of us really!

[jaun / P.A.B.L.O.]

cost of bullet in head to tax payer is ?

[Sean Fear]

"I always assumed castration removed the sexual urge from the individual?"

Sadly not, it seems.

[Madradin Ruad]

It surprises me on my occasional visits here that I find an article on which we are agreed upon.

Not half as much, I suspect, as it surprises most of the rest of us Pacman ;)

[pacman]

Aw - you missing me then MR?:)

[Frank O'Dwyer]

cost of bullet in head to tax payer is ?

Greater than the cost of life imprisonment.

Paedophiles admit themselves that they will reoffend.

Yet the majority of first time offenders do not, and the reoffending rates are significantly lower than for any other type of crime.

They can't help themselves. It's an overwhelming desire within them that drives them to such monstrosities.

Both statements that are better supported when applied to the baying crowd than to paedophiles.

[Madradin Ruad]

LOL pacman - if there were more like you and less like Tony life wouldn't be so easy round here ;:

[pacman]

Easy - speak for yourself.;) Impending 19% rates hike, water rates, probably less than inflationary wage increase again this year (third or fourth year on the trot).
I think Tony's succeeding with the masterplan: pricing the North out of the UK. Ah, if only I'd followed my heart and bought that house in Dundalk ten years ago.......

[Madradin Ruad]

I don't mean Tony Blair :) I mean Tony who posts here!

[pacman]

Oh - I've obviously been away longer than I thought.

[HSLD]

I really don't think the cost of a 'bullet' is more than that of life imprisonment.
I pay £20 for 90 rounds of 5.56 L2A2 ammunition, which works out at 22p a round.

I think the only way to execute a paedophile in a more expensive fashion than keeping him in jail for life would involve firing a Trident missile at him. Which I would say is a bit over the top...

[pacman]

For the lifetime of misery and the robbery of innocence that they cause, a bullet's too quick for them.

How about peeling the first two layers of skin completely off them, and dropping them in a bath of salt water? Maybe then, they'd understand what pain is all about?

[Emily]

"Greater than the cost of life imprisonment."

That one again, Frank? It's not the execution itself that costs money, it's the nearly endless appeals process that leads up to it.

[Frank O'Dwyer]

Emily,

That one again, Frank?

Sometimes you have to repeat yourself. After all, it hasn't sunk in with some people here that the earth is more than 6,000 years old. Got to make allowances. :-)

It's not the execution itself that costs money, it's the nearly endless appeals process that leads up to it.

Have you a problem with appeals? The entire process costs more money than the alternatives. Any way you cut it millions of dollars have been redirected from processes that do work to a process that doesn't work.

[ch in tx]

Here in the US we handle things differently, of course. We have a sex offenders registry where pedophiles are tracked after prison or adjudication. It brings up visions of people wearing a scarlet letter, but the safety of kids comes 1st.

Here's a link to a random area of Dallas so you can see the info available to the general public to see if your neighbor is a pedo. Enjoy!

[ch in tx]

Whoops! Try this Link Here and use a zip code od 75225 or 75208 or 75080.

[Frank O'Dwyer]

Here in the US we handle things differently [...] info available to the general public to see if your neighbor is a pedo.

So you can go and kill them yourself! Or beat their brother nearly to death with a baseball bat!

Remember, it's all for the kids.

[The Phantom]

Frank

So, you're saying that a family shouldn't be able to know if a convicted pervert lives next door? How West European of you.

[Adrian]

I tend to agree with Ch in Texas and Phantom on this issue. However it's important that communities should also know when their next door neighbour is a 90-year-old cripple in need of help so that they can make themselves available.

[ch in tx]

I agree with that Adrian. Much to my disgust, I find that a man is 4 streets down from me did something to a 4 year old girl. I'm sure that he is safe in his person here, but I will be keeping an eye on him.

[Frank O'Dwyer]

Phantom,

If the "pervert" is a significant threat of reoffending, then why should s/he be next door in the first place, unless next door is a secure facility?

But if course you must be right - after all, if we cannot beat "perverts" brothers half to death with baseball bats, how else will we create a nice environment for our children to grow up in?

[ch in tx]

And Frank, a convicted offender can take steps necessary to protect themselves, even police protection. Too bad their little victims weren't afforded the same.

[Tony]

Frank.

Any alternatives to not allowing people to know who is living in their area?

[ch in tx]

Interestingly, Oklahoma, our neighbor to the north, isn't as liberal as Texas is in these matters. They have the death penalty for repeat child molesters.

[Sean Fear]

On balance I wouldn't support a version of Megan's law as I think it would make it harder, rather than easier, to keep tabs on paedophiles.

But I'm certainly not sympathetic to Hari's handwringing about the issue, or his silly claims about paedophiles being "massacred" in teh USA.