The threat that Sinn Fein/IRA represents to democratic politics both North and South is spelt out in an excellent article by Jim Cusack in the Sunday Independent. (Subs required)
In essence, Sinn Fein/IRA's nasty little secret is that it seeks to subvert policing in both Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland to turn the IRA into a quasi-police force in Catholic areas of the North and even in the Republic. This is EXACTLY what Bob McCartney and myself wrote about way back in 1998. Republicans seek to make their paramilitarism legal and subvert law and order in the process.
Sinn Fein has drawn up a blueprint for what is termed "community safety partnerships". The document says they will only be set up "in councils where we have sufficient numbers". The CSPs would be an alternative to the legitimate District Policing Partnerships - the community liaison groups set up under the reform of policing in Northern Ireland. Sinn Fein's community safety partnerships are being set up to try to ensure that Catholics in the North do not co-operate with the legitimate police groups. They are also likely to try to set up similar operations in the Republic, initially in County Donegal as a prelude to trying to spread this "alternative" policing. Sinn Fein does not recognise the Garda Siochana or the Defence Forces. Ironically, the document seen by this newspaper reveals that Sinn Fein is to ask the British Government to fund its alternative policing structure.
This is insurrection, plain and simple, against both the British AND Irish Governments, but in a display of the arrogance that follows years of appeasement, Sinn Fein want the British Government to FUND it!!!!
It is clear to any sensible person that Sinn Fein/IRA represent a threat to the future stability of our society. Instead of indulging this gang of murderers and cut-throats, we should be moving to crush them and their nasty little plans. Either we destroy Sinn Fein/IRA, or they will destroy us.
Subversion from within David. One of the biggest steps towards the collapse of democracy is the subversion of policing - as seen in Germany in the 30s. This infiltration and subversion has always been militant Republican strategy - From the Gaelic league to NICRA, infiltrate and subvert.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 11:33 AM
And subversives have NO place in Government, not today, not tomorrow, not ever.
Posted by: David Vance | April 10, 2006 at 12:19 PM
Hey guys the Sindo comes out with these half-baked stories every sunday, complete with anonymous sources, phony documents designed purely to discredit SF, as the McDowell leaning Sindo fears SF's rise at the next election.
Propoganda chaps!
Don't believe what you read.
Its like reading the Daily Mail, and then saying "see what labour are upto".
Its all bullshit, it sells newspapers.
Posted by: bogbrush | April 10, 2006 at 12:27 PM
People believe what they want to believe.
Rarely has TRUTH anything to do with it, and is invariably the first casualty.
Tap away on yer keyboard David, its just re-inforcing your paranoi. Am I allowed to say that :)
Posted by: bogbrush | April 10, 2006 at 12:31 PM
From the shadowy figures who ruled the 'Republican' ghetto's during the nightmare days of the bombing campaigns, to the Armani-suited clowns who prance and preen under the flags of 'The Peace Process', the one message has never altered; the message which was so cynically spoken by one Gerry Adams, "They haven't gone away, y'know"
The final sentence of the post by David is the telling one, and whereas the Brit and Eire politicians and other creeps seek compromise and appeasement, the only true reply to Mr. Adams and his sinister rhetoric is already available. It is very easily delivered, being only 7.62mm. in diameter!
Posted by: genghis | April 10, 2006 at 12:49 PM
why don't you go do it then genghis, being the hard man you are.
You ain't even out of nappies yet. LOL
Posted by: bogbrush | April 10, 2006 at 12:57 PM
SF are revealed as wanting to worsen the Balkanisation of NI by promoting apartheid policing.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 01:04 PM
american business men are also going to fund C.R.J. , the stepping stone for above, perhaps we should pay mad arabs to knee cap their kids as well. in the spirit of equlity, of course.
Posted by: | April 10, 2006 at 01:22 PM
What a load of crap!
We have set up Community Safety Groups in South Armagh. The crime in the area has went down by over 80% since we did, break ins, anti-social behaviour etc.
It involves all members of the community, from the GAA to the local parish priest, SDLP etc
We are working well with all statutory agencies but it is not an alternative to a Police service, trouble is that we don't have one of those at the moment.
It is about empowering communities and creating awareness.
This newspaper article is the usual howling in the moonlight by Cusack
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | April 10, 2006 at 02:21 PM
I believe that under the Nazi rule, crime plummeted as well. The howling comes from wolves dressed as "community safety" lambs.
Posted by: David Vance | April 10, 2006 at 02:35 PM
I love that "all members of the community, from the GAA to the local parish priest, SDLP etc" thing.
Not many prods in that "community" then, Chris?
Posted by: DST | April 10, 2006 at 03:01 PM
No DST, not many "prods" in my part of the country, sorry but just a fact of life.
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | April 10, 2006 at 03:13 PM
'No DST, not many "prods" in my part of the country, sorry but just a fact of life.'
Yes, your fellow travellers sorted that situation out some years ago . .
Posted by: Richard | April 10, 2006 at 03:54 PM
I know - I was one of them "prods"...
Posted by: David Vance | April 10, 2006 at 03:58 PM
Just so this conversation doesn't descend into a exaggerated MOPE, can I point out that the Community Safety Groups are organised on a village by village basis and Chris' comments about the whole community would have applied specifically to his own village, a place where I do not believe there is any evidence of "prods" being driven out, not even your good self, David.
Posted by: November Rain | April 10, 2006 at 04:47 PM
November Rain,
Fair point. However my issue lies with the Sinn Fein/IRA insurrectionist strategy, and their perversion of democratic politics.
Posted by: David Vance | April 10, 2006 at 04:53 PM
Fair point. However my issue lies with the Sinn Fein/IRA insurrectionist strategy, and their perversion of democratic politics.
what democratic politics? they simply dont exist in northern ireland.
Posted by: daytripper | April 10, 2006 at 06:24 PM
Apartheid policing.
mother of ten shot in unionist area - police involved.
mother of ten shot in SF controlled area - crime ? There's been no crime committed ....
The wheel goes full circle - SF are demanding that things which were totally unacceptable when they weren't in control are now returned so they can do what they claimed Unionists were wrong to do in "the bad old days". NICRA demanded the end of local policing because it led to harassment, victimisation and bullying - SF now want it brought back .... because they'll be the ones in the driving seat.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 06:36 PM
Thanks NR for bring some sense of reality to this MOPE fest.
The community groups are organised on a village by village basis. There is also an over-arching community forum but as most of the Protestants that live in South Armagh live in Newtown and Bessbrook the fact that we have yet to set up groups there would explain the lack of protestant involvement.
Groups will hopefully be set up there next and then we will have Protestant involvement.
OK DST?, there are no Protestants in Dromintee nothing I can do about that.
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | April 10, 2006 at 06:38 PM
The papers are full of speculation - could it have been a South Armagh CSG that paid a visit to Donegal ?
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 06:40 PM
No it couldn't MR, winding as usual LOL ;)
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | April 10, 2006 at 07:02 PM
LOL - you spoilsport Chris!
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 07:21 PM
The cottage has an interesting history though - did you see the SBP article ?
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 07:22 PM
Yes
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | April 10, 2006 at 07:25 PM
Interesting IRA connection :
A former IRA prisoner, who was released under the Good Friday agreement , is being questioned in connection with the hijacking of a truck in Co Meath.
Perfect recruit for community policing ?
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | April 10, 2006 at 11:38 PM