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January 28, 2006

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Madradin Ruad

Interesting that there are any old people in Scotland at all - if one believed the health-fascists their dreadful diet, high alcohol intake and fondness for smoking would mean that few of them should live past their 50s. But then again, the Japanese have a lot of smokers and have a good life expectancy.

Aileen

Mad

next step - tobacco on prescription ;o)

Surely the thread is supporting (not proving) the idea that the Scottish "lifestyle" is unhealthy and that although there are some senior citizens left, there could have been a lot more.

David Vance

MR,

That's a good point - all those deep fried Mars bars must increase longevity! And, perhaps, an occassional whisky?

Aileen

I must have a deep fried mars bar some day. I don't get to Scotland and I haven't heard of them available in London. Does anyone know anywhere in NI that they can be had. I suppose I could make my own but I expect getting it from a chippie is part of the experience.

I've just realised that I have compleatly and totally misunderstood the thread Duh!
My ADD strikes again!

Right so there are disproprotionately more old people. Could that mean that the Scottish are not fertile enough and that that is down to their lifestyle.

On the other hand I'd much prefer to think that chips are good for you.

I was a total failure at smoking. Maybe I can get the benifits by just using patches!

Aileen

Oh and David I love this record too. It's great that the accent comes through so strongly.

Madradin Ruad

I think myself that a lot of this is down to change in lifestyle. Young people move around - and education plays a big part in this - and follow the Jobs. It's not that long ago that moving out of a district to a different county was seen as unusual. These days moving to a different country is nothing special. The Family unit is dispersed.

Colm

Get those old people back into work. Start paying pensions at 80 - problem solved !

David Vance

Colm,

So, you'll be having a word with the Trade Unions then....????

MR,

This issue is about a plunging demographic that will not resolve itself.

Aileen

The way things are going we might all have to work 'till we're 80. Which reminds me I haven't checked my Euro lottery ticket. If I win the £100,000,000 I may go part time. :0)

Is the population of England disproportionately young?

Colm

David

That's very surprising. You concerned about the Trade Unions reaction.

Aileen

If you win the hundred mill, I will come and work for you. You gotta give me half though I think I could just about cope with £50 mill

genghis

"Scotland no more?"

If only!!!!!!!!!!!!

No more G. Brown!

No more tear-stained alcoholic clowns mourning about the beauty of some wretched mountainside stained with failed insurrectionist blood!

No more Scots M.P.s voting on English matters!

A complete silence from the shades of all the fools who believed that being from Scotland was to be from some sort of paradise, when actuality tells us even the sheep dinna' like it that much!

Scots' wha' hae? No way!!

William Wallace has an awful lot to answer for, and Mel Gibson even more!

Colm

Wot about Haggis, the deep fried Mars bars , the Krankies and "C U Jimmy" Scottish drunks rolling around English towns!

Aileen

Still no info on where I can get deep fried Mars bars :o(

Colm if I win the dosh, you can run my Scottish estate. Apart from that I can't spare you any of the money. I have plans for it!

Colm

Aileen

Take a mars bar with you when you next go to the chippy, and ask the nice man behind the counter to batter it and wrap it up with your cod and chips

Ps - What plans. Your not going to bribe Mad with your millions into marrying you again I hope!

Garfield

Good to see the union delivering for Scotland.

Declining population, brain drain south, grinding poverty, Soviet rates of public sector dependancy.

Well done "United Kingdom", the great Scottish people have been brought to the brink of extinction.

Aileen

I wouldn't want anyone that would be swayed by such considerations! *adopts pious/po-faced expression*

I have a few missions in mind, including raising awareness about trauma response in general and terrorism impact in the UK in particular (including making EDMR therapy more widely available), about neurodiversity and making diagnosis and support more widely available and opening up the employment sector to the advantages that the such diversity (sorry David and Andrew!) can bring, research into the links between neurodiversity (different thinking) and trauma response, providing a safety net for people struggling with any of the above AND having my Scottish estate, posh house near Slone Square, island on Lough Erne, diamonds and emeralds cosmetic surgery Handbags and a collection of shoes to rival Imeda Marcos and Thorton choclates.

The Scottish estate is becoming more appealing as Scottland looks to be having a decreasing populations, so I think I should do my bit!

Colm

Aileen

You will have to produce LOADS and LOADS of kids to bring the demographic age down.

Ps I didn't know Thorntons chocolates owned a large collection of shoes :)

Aileen

Colm

that is no longer possible since Mad's desertion. I will have to content myself to saving Scotland by bringing employment opportunities. I will start a chocolate factory to rival Thortons an exquisite shoe/boot/handbag business and a finishing school for Scottish would be MPs to further increase the power of the Scots at Westminster.

Ross

On the subject of Mark Steyn, I've just been listening to his weekly radio slot, and I have to say that after hearing his voice for the first time I can't recall anyone who sounds so different to how I would have imagined. He has a British accent for one thing.

Colm

I always thought Mark Steyn was one of those hybrid Anglo-Americans like Bill Bryson or Andrew Sullivan.

Aileen
"Increase the power of scots at Westminster" flipping hell. They are overrepresented and have too much power as it is.

Garfield

Who'd have thought that Mark Steyn would say Scotland should learn from Ireland.

Henry94

I think the situation will prove worse than predicted. The young people that do exist will flee the high tax regimes required to sustain the old people. Thus the problem will get a lot more serious a lot sooner.

People used to have children with one eye to their own old-age. But we have a society that believes the state can and should provide. but without taxpayers the state is nothing and all the rights it has abrogated to itself will bring about only its demise.

In 1968, Pope Paul VI, in Humane Vitae cautioned the world against four consequences of separating the procreative and unitive aspects of marriage: conjugal infidelity and the general lowering of morality, sexual exploitation and loss of respect for women, governmental control over people's lives, and human beings thinking they had unlimited dominion over their own bodies, turning the human person into an object.


Mick

Henry,

It's likely to be ameliorated by the UK Exechequer: which may be worse.

One of the several causes of the Irish economic miracle was the Republic's willingness to cut waste in the public sector and Charlie McGreevy's ruthless balancing of the books.

The last time I visited Scotland, I found few people prepared to contemplate such action, never mind vote for it.

Henry94

Mick

It's a bit like the north. They think it's free money from the English so why cut. It is effectivly the problem of welfare dependency on a society wide scale.

The English should do both societies a favour and cut off their dole and cut them loose. England should leave the UK.


Gary

I wonder will the SNP still continue to push for independence? I lived in Scotland (work brought me, near Inverness) for over 4 years before I moved down here near Halifax and trust me you havent seen nothing yet till you have seen deep fried pizza! How vile.
Some people seem to forget that Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all contribute to the UK economy. Maybe Brussels should have dumped the Republic of Ireland when they became a HUGE drain on all our taxes all these years and continue to do so.

Just where is this "north" some people keep talking about? Is it the north pole? Or maybe north America? Or is it the north of Ireland, you know, Donegal?

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