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November 22, 2005

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joc

Nice to put a voice to your writings Andrew - assuming that was you on talkback.

Not sure I agree with you tho... ;)

Peter

Andrew, just heard you on BBC Talkback. Well done!

Sean Fear


Keeping the current boundaries of Newry and Mourne seems pretty odd. Surely South Armagh should go in with the rest of Armagh, and Newry and South Down with the rest of Down?

Andrew McCann

Yes, it was my horrible Yorkshire brogue you heard. Horrendous, eh?

slug

Andrew

You have the nack of blogging. This piece makes the point very effectively. Well done.

PS

Why describe Belfast as "green" when it currently has neither a Nationalist nor unionist majority?

Mike

Gerry Adams is on Radio 5 Live this afternoon. Thought you might like to know.

Andrew McCann

PS

Because of what it will be within 5 years.

Mike

I'll decline. If I listen to that murderer I'll end up throwing the radio against the wall.

Peter

Andrew, I think you may be pessimistic about Belfast falling under nationalist control. The tide was at least halted at the last local elections.

But your central point about a greater Belfast is correct and was backed up by an economist a few months back, which David Dunseith mentioned just after you went off-air. The urban parts of Newtownabbey and Castlereagh are clearly part of Belfast.

Mike

Andrew, you better turn off at 2 then.

fearganainm

based on the 2005 district council results, will council 6 not be fairly evenly balanced also?

Chris Gaskin

Great News!

This was always going to be the outcome

Andrew McCann

Is it great news because your Shinner chums can dance in the street the way they dance on the graves of those they murdered?

Richard

Chris, would you think it was 'great news' if a hypothetical nationalist majority country had a majority unionist council make up?

Chris Gaskin

"a hypothetical nationalist majority country had a majority unionist council make up?"

Majorities change all the time Andrew; you can't tell Nationalists in Belfast to stop breeding!

The so-called Unionist majority is as artificial as these council changes.

History has a tendency of biting you in the behind.

Unionism should consider itself bitten!

You want direct rule? You got it!

Chris Gaskin

Sorry my comment was meant for Richard, not Andrew


Andrew

Grow up!

Richard

Chris, so you don't think there are more unionists in Northern Ireland than nationalists??

Chris Gaskin

"so you don't think there are more unionists in Northern Ireland than nationalists??"

Did I say that?

It is "Northern Ireland" that is artificial and which allows for an artificial Unionist majority.

It is quite pleasing to see their greatest invention shaft them!

Richard

'It is "Northern Ireland" that is artificial and which allows for an artificial Unionist majority.'

Do you think people from the republic of ireland should be allowed to vote for councillors in N Ireland too?

Michael Shilliday

Council 6 strikes me as being marginal as well.

Peter

Yeah, surely Banbridge and Craigavon are unionist-controlled at present? Could it be that the shinner gloating is a tad premature?

Andrew McCann

'Grow up'!!! Coming from a man who stands outside a university in a display of petulance against the armed forces wanting to recruit graduate talent, that's funny!!

As to 'breeding', I don't want to tell anyone to do anything on a reproductive front, except for those who support Sinn Fein/IRA, and I think you know what I mean.

Belfast is a Unionist city. It's time the council boundaries reflected that fact.

J Kelly

This notion that the redrawing of councils is going to lead to further sectarianisation of the north is total nonsense. Currently we have 26 local councils 13 are unionist dominated, 10 are nationalist dominated and 3 are balanced with neither having over all control or the balance of power being held by alliance or independents. So whats the diffeence with these 7 or 26 in regards control by either
nationalist or unionist.

If parties would be truthful about the situation we might have a good debate the reason the SDLP are going mad is that Sinn Fein will be the largest party in the three western councils and they will lose control of Derry and Down. Its not about sectarianism, local power or local identity its Stop Sinn Fein, Stop A United Ireland.

Peter

Another fine example of Sinn Fein's stalinist / totalitarian instincts. One of their councillors has been suspended from the party for daring to publicly oppose the new local government boundaries. What a fine bunch of democrats! Dissent from the party line? Not in this party you won't!

See story at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4460636.stm

Iñaki O'Kelly

The new armagh-south down council is not as marginal as might seem at first glance because the overwhelming nationalist majority in Newry-south Down (80%) outweighs the smaller unionist majority of Craigavon (44%). If you go to Nicholas Whyte's Northern Ireland Elections website you'll find all the statistics.
In so far as the Belfast Council does not include Castlereagh and Newtownabbey, Andrew Mccann's complaint would be more credible if he included poleglass and twinbrook. But of course, they're full of fenians breeding like rabbits (not pandas).

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