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March 11, 2005

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Young  Irelander

I don't know why unionists are so hostile to the idea of joint authority.I think nationalists should be more worried.Joint authority would likely see the border stay in place while a role for Dublin would do much to quell the desire for Irish reunification among nationalists in the North.

As for your points about nationality,all the people on the island are entitled to consider themselves part of the Irish nation.If you're born on this island,you're Irish!

Michael

Don't forget about the harp YI...


only messing with ya man lol

David Vance

YI,

Forget about joint authority. The ROI has no business having ANY say on ANY subject to do with Northern Ireland. Since Ahern's Government is a foreign Government, I fail to see why it SHOULD have any say - maybe you think the UK should start determining Irish Government activity?

New Yorker

Dear Gentlemen,

You're leaving out us Yanks. I propose triple authority, UK, ROI and the US. We'll teach you a thing or two about economic policy, individual rights and responsibilities, fighting organized crime, non-sectarianism and a host of other successful ways of conducting a polity. We have more Irish Protestants and more Irish Catholics than you have in NI.

Colm


David/Andrew

I am worried about your respective blood pressures.

Don't panic! - it ain't gonna happen. Joint authority is a non-starter. Is there any location on earth that is governed by 2 sovereign states under joint authority?

Now if your talking about inch by inch unofficial de-facto joint authority by stealth.... Well I'm quite sure our blessed New Labour govt. would never dream of doing anything so underhand.

Oh dear I can feel your blood pressure rising again :)

Young  Irelander

David,

I feel your comment shows you still do not understand the position of the nationalist community who are supposed to be your compatriots.
Why should the Republic of IRELAND have a say in Northern IRELAND?How about the fact that we're all IRISH.
Bertie Ahern's government might be foreign to you but to the nationalist community it is the government of their nation.(Except for Provo supporters,I guess)
English,Scottish and Welsh people do not share the same nationality as the Irish people in the south,but Irish people in the north do.

Joint Authority would solve alot of problems for unionists but if they don't want to consider it,then that's good news for nationalism!

David Vance

YI,

And you fail to understand that we are NOT all Irish. I am blessed to be British and all those who live in Northern Ireland are fellow British citizens. The fact that an indulged minority like to pretend they are Irish is fine by me, I accept this is their right, just like some people think they are Aliens from the Planet Zarg.

Irredentist nationalists need to learn to keep their noses out of our business.

Young  Irelander

David,

Nationality cannot be determined through legal technicalities.People are hardly pretending to be Irish if they are born in the island of Ireland.They ARE Irish.Irishness does not end at the border,it is throughout the island and no government can ever dictate its terms.

"Irredentist nationalists need to learn to keep their noses out of our business."

The Irish nation is a 32 county entity.Anything that happens within the 6 counties of NI IS our business.

David Vance

"Legal technicalities" - do you mean constitutional realities that do not suit Irish republican delusionists?

Young  Irelander

David,

I mean placing too much emphasis on legislation over self-determination.

Colm

David

Your sounding too much like Andrew - "pretending to be Irish.. indeed! That is nonsense. Everyone born and raised on the whole island are Irish but as a point of fact those who live in Northern Ireland also happen to be citizens of the UK. The two are not incompatible.

Andrew McCann

From Ballycastle to Crossmaglen; from Castlederg to Copeland Island, Northern Ireland is BRITISH first, foremost and always!!

Colm

You don't know the meaning of blood pressure until the day someone takes mine at the time when the disloyalty of Irish nationalism is rewarded in its fullest context.

Colm

Andrew

I can well believe it. If there's one good reason against creating a single 32 county state it's to prevent Mr Andrew Mc Cann from having a heart attack.

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