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October 29, 2006

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Richard Carey

Re: Sir Walter

His last words, after he was allowed to view the axe that would behead him, were "This is a sharp Medicine, but it is a Physician for all Diseases."

Those bloody Stuarts!

aileen

I think the Tudors were worse. Henry VIII takes some beating in the monster stakes.

Richard

I take it "Those Bloody Stuarts" are your words not his ;o)

Richard Carey

Aileen,

Indeed!

re: the Tudors, I'll give you Henry VIII, and Mary who was so bloody they made a drink out of her, but be fair, good Queen Bess and her brother the little Edward earn them some points.

aileen

Richard

I would have liked to have thought that Sir Walter had uttered that. I have never understtod why so many in those times submitted to the axe with words like "my sweet and mercifal prince" on their lips. Anne Boyleyn should have told it like is was although she may have been thinking of Elizabeth's welfare.

Elizabeth did seem to be relativley free of bloodlust. I am angry with her for her callous indiffernce to the fate of so many of the sailors who defeated the Spanish.

As for Edward. I wonder how he may have turned out. It's possible that he would have turned out to be just the Pord version of Mary. Apart from what Henry VIII did to so many people, including his wives, the damage he did to his children is overlooked. I don't think Mary would have become a monster of not for his treatment of her. Edward by all accounts was a cold fish and that might have spelt dangers.

aileen

oops "Prod" version of Mary.

Richard Carey

Aileen,

Edward was only 15 when he died (I think) so hard to judge his character. Anything done in his reign was by his guardians.

I don't know about Elizabeth's callous indifference, but can believe it. She was remembered fondly and the Elizabethan era was looked back on as a golden age, but judging by today's standards, Henry's kids certainly had issues!

aileen

Richard

I wasn't thinking of the actions of his ministers but his letters and more particularly his journal.

Apparantly Elizabeth didn't see the point in paying them when the danger was over and they had ruined themselves in the nation's defence.

Re her issues. I think that there is only one mention that she ever made of her mother. I would loved to have known what she really thought of her father and what he did to her mother and her uncle (and indeed to her aunt).

alison

Edward certainly seeed very determined and calculating when it came to the transfer of power and from his letters seems to have been a very intelligent young man.

Elizabeth was very clever when it came to managing power in a mans world and a particularly dangerous one for a queen at that. I think she did an amazing job overall. She certainly put England on the map.

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