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June 30, 2006

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The Phantom

--Bless my Oliver Cromwell statuette--

Do you keep him between your Adolf Hitler and Pol Pot statuettes?

Henry94

It is an effective argument to make to impressionable young people. I've used it myself.

Madradin Ruad in British Ireland

It's telling that so many miles away from the border in a foreign country you should have to deal with youngsters exposed to such evil Henry.

Personally I think Denis Faul had a better way of dissuading youthful hot-heads from listening to the poison in rags like an fleabite or the words of Adams and Morrison.

Quote :
For much of his career, Faul had been a schoolmaster, most famously as headmaster of St Patrick’s Academy for Boys in Dungannon. Faul knew his charges and frequently told those teenagers who seemed seduced by the lure of violent republicanism: “If you’re lucky, you’ll spend 20 years in jail. And if you’re not lucky, your mother will be handed a folded tricolour at your graveside.”
But the kicker was to come: “And if you go to jail or die,” Faul often would tell them, “it will sooner or later emerge that your commanding officer was a tout, and that his commanding officer was a tout too. And whilst you’re rotting away, they will be getting off scot-free.” If only more imams in Britain today spoke like that to young Muslims tempted by jihad.

Faul’s warning was only mildly hyperbolic. He was vindicated when it emerged that two leading Provisionals, Denis Donaldson and Freddie Scappaticci, had been on the British payroll — the tip of an iceberg. And he would have been unsurprised by allegations that Martin McGuinness was a British agent: he had claimed as much to me more than five years ago. “One thing about the Brits,” he would say. “Just remember, they play cricket. Nice and long and slow.”

Dean Godson in the Sunday Times.


Chris Gaskin

It does work and it is keeping the youth away from the armchair dissidents.

It could have been worded better but sure you can't have everything.

Madradin Ruad in British Ireland

How about being honest with them Chris and telling them that violent republicanism is against God's law or if they are non-believers, telling then that it's both immoral and counter-productive ?

Madradin Ruad in British Ireland

Should have been a smiley in that one by the way ;)

Chris Gaskin

How about being honest with them Chris and telling them that violent republicanism is against God's law or if they are non-believers, telling then that it's both immoral and counter-productive ?

If I told them that I would be lying, besides, I never bring religion into Republicanism.

Scouseproud

First Jonathan Ross now Andrew commenting on waterworks with reference to Montgomery Clift! There was a time when a shag was rough cut tobacco! It is not gentlemanly Andrew to insult another mans tackle!
No doubt you tell everybody "mines a 12 incher but i dont use it as a rule!"

aileen

FairDeal is a star!

Re the comment. I'm not a bit suprised he thinks it. The only suprise is him saying it publically.

Henry94

MR

I think you are missing the point.

You are quoting Fr Faul's case against joining the IRA. Those arguments did not work and the IRA was never short of volunteers.

The arguments republicans make against the cira/rira do work and they find it very difficult to attract support.

There inability to attack the British forces is evidence of that.

With all due respect to Fr. Denis Faul his influence on young republicans was non-exist ant. The effective argument is a republican argument.

You are more interested in attacking the mainstream movement precisely because you don't see the dissidents as a real threat. That shows who has won the debate in republican communities and makes the point for us.

Madradin Ruad in British Ireland

Those arguments did not work and the IRA was never short of volunteers.

Really ? How do you know that Faul's argument did not work Henry? How many of his pupils who might have joined thought better of it ? We cannot know - but would to God there had been more people telling young men on both sides that message.

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