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February 07, 2006

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ch in texas

DV, As a pharmacist, I deal with this every day. Yesterday I filled a prescription for 3 months of an arthritis drug that cost the US gov. (ME) $4000 for a 3 month supply that cost the patient $60. This is under the new Medicare Rx program.

Whenever a 3rd party picks up the tab, there is no economic incentive for the patient to weight the pros and cons of a drug vis a vis the price. Sure, I'll give it a shot the patient says, it only costs $60! This is for private insurance as well.

The seniors citizens are such a strong voting block, the gov. extends all sorts of benefits to them, but we do have the working poor who have no insurance and must pay out of pocket..

With the original story, I can understand cancer patients grasping at straws, but as long as the patient in insulated from the costs of drugs, the drug companies will charge what they want, and let sick people do their marketing for them by demanding their products, WHATEVER THE COST.

Meanwhile in the 3rd world, children die from worms. I'm starting to sound like Colm!

David Vance

Chas,

Fully agree with what you say.

Peter

The simplest solution is to ration healthcare by price and ability to pay. This will be a return to the pre-NHS days where the rich had healthcare and the poor did not.

That way CH wouldn't be bothered with elderly patients demanding arthritis drugs - they'd be at home in pain where they deserve to be. And taxes would be a whole lot less, in Texas and everywhere else.

David Vance

But Peter,

That is precisely NOT the case pre NHS. Permit me to post on the topic so I can widen the story.

ch in texas

Peter, Either your argument is specious, or you misunderstood. Of course I don't want my patients in pain! Two points. When a 3rd party is paying the bill, there is no incentive for the patient or the drug compaany to hold down costs. Second, taking care of people's basic needs are fine. Where does it say however, that the government can take my $4000 and give it to someone for medicine? Even from a liberal prospective, couldn't that $4000 go to the 3rd world to save the lives of 10,000 children who are dying for the diarrhea associated with worms?

NHS in the UK, or the system we have in the US flies in the face of economic reality. Let the hidden hand of the market take care of a lot of it.

willowfield

You're right. People will have to pay. But they are unwilling to. They would rather have lower taxes.

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The ideal system is compulsary health insurance with truely competitive supply. This is the only way to have universal coverage and efficiency at the same time.

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How does Private medicine and Insurance ensure a competitive supply ?

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