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December 09, 2005

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David Vance

Have to fully agree with Andrew's analysis here - the sanitisation of the Provos is almost complete. 2006 will witness the pressure being applied to Unionists.

rich

i agree too, that politics has interfered in justice.but im a firm beliver that everyone needs to up their game and fight SF in the arena and not just with words from the outside. but then i suspect tht is exactly why the likes of the dup are against it in the first place. because they have expended all energies on barking and have no policies with which to operate a government.

Peter

Depressing, but true. The acts of appeasement become more blatant and shameless with each passing week. From memory, in the past three months we have had:

*Disbandment of the home batallion of the RIR.
*Dismantling border watch towers.
*Troop withdrawals.
*The return of the "Columbia Three".
*The scandalous OTR legislation (drafted by the IRA?)
*The collapse of the Stormont spy-ring case.

I'm sure I've missed a few here, but the trend is unmistakable. What they demand, they get.

Henry94

Peter

A lot of the things you mention were part of the deal that brought about decommissioning. What possible reason could there be for watchtowers in South Armagh today? It is as quiet and peaceful a place as there is anywhere in the world.

Unionism needs to and will split between those who accept the new reality and those who can't.

Todd

Peter,
You forgot about the Super councils, Irish language stuff,President of Ireland walking around the north as if she owned the place,Peter Hains statements that the North is pretty much a failed entity,Smoking laws soon to be same as south etc etc...

What will happen in 2006.

Peter

H94, South Armagh my be peaceful now, but it's also the centre of major criminal rackets run by republicans, involving diesel smuggling / laundering, dvd piracy and many others.

Todd, I'm not sure the super-councils are part of the appeasement process, more a case of cutting beaurocracy to the minimum. But I agree that Hain's remarks in the USA were outrageous.

Henry94

Peter

South Armagh my be peaceful now, but it's also the centre of major criminal rackets run by republicans, involving diesel smuggling / laundering, dvd piracy and many others.

All the watchtowers in the world won't stop that. A combination of agreed policing and tax-harmonisation is the way to go.

Peter

I hear the PSNI have made a start on Jonesborough market and a few other places in the area. Way to go!

joc

Agreed Peter.

I think some innovate monitoring of local filling stations wouldn't go amiss if rumours of late night fills and engine damage following fills from certain stops are anything to go by. Electricity companies have got very good at spotting meter tampering by monitoring usage trends. Why can't customs and excise apply the same standards and inflict enough penalties that the activity becomes uneconomic.

Jo

"*Disbandment of the home batallion of the RIR.
*Dismantling border watch towers.
*Troop withdrawals.
*The return of the "Columbia Three".
*The scandalous OTR legislation (drafted by the IRA?)
*The collapse of the Stormont spy-ring case."

With respect the use of the words "appeasement" and "concession" can not realistically be applied to all of the above. In my own view the only element which is directly linked to satisfying a specifically SF/IRA issue is the OTR matter - and even that seems destined to actually benefit HMG by airbrushing all those embarassing police/army breaches of discipline/unlawful activity over the years.

The first 3 save Treasury money which, combined with determined efforts to hike up lcoal taxtation, mean that the true price of direct rule will be brought to bear on all NI citizens, in line with taxation on all other UK residents.

The return of the C3 is not appeasement, the subsequent inactivity by the Irish Govt is due to a variety of diplomatic and internal law issues. How can the attitude of the UK government to the Irish governments treatment of Irish citizens be appeasement?

The collapse of the spy-ring case cannot reasonably be regarded as a "concession" given that the act whch precipitated this groundless set of allegations worked directly against the interests of SF.

To make a concession would be to ignore evidence. What evidence is being ignored?

Its collapse does not move SF forward one iota - it simply a reflection of how pointless and political the initial act was.

Sorry, the above list is too simplistic.

Peter

Jo, the Columbia 3 appeasement is obviously by the ROI government. They are folowing an identical policy to the UK.

As to the OTR bill, the idea that they don't even have to appear before a judge while their vicims do is outrageously one-sided. The security force issue is a red herring, since no member of the army or police is wanted at the present time, as far as I know.

Henry94

Peter

The Irish government have no role in the Colombia Three case. It is a matter for the courts to respond to any extradition request.

As the men were cleared in open court in Colombia because there wasn't any evidence against them it is hard to see the basis for any extradition.

Concerned Gael

Haha, its funny how the bitter people have to hide their useless arguments in sterotypes and racism

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