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November 05, 2005

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United Irelander

"Fox hunting combines the most humane way to kill this opportunistic thief with a British tradition dating back hundreds of years"

Andrew, could you explain to me what is "humane" about a pack of dogs chasing down a fox until it reaches the point of exhaustion before they proced to rip the fox to pieces?

Madradin Ruad

UI - have you ever seen what the poisons used do ?

Biologically hunting is also advantageous to the fox population as a whole. Numbers are kept lower and a healthy predator/prey balance
is maintained , as well as weeding out the weaker specimens who are a danger to the population overall.

United Irelander

MR,

Surely the most humane way to hunt a fox would be the way that you would hunt a deer? Shoot it.

Personally I oppose fox hunting. If these people need to satisfy their bloodlust let them do what the rest of us do - buy a Grand Theft Auto game and go crazy.

Poosh

metrosexual... what is that? Car sex?

Madradin Ruad

Not as easy as you would think UI - getting a clean and reliable kill is very difficult - not to mention the problem of having to greatly increase the number of rifles on the loose in the countryside. Although I'm uneasy with hunting it seems to me to be the best of a bad bunch of options.

Aileen

Mad

I agree. I couldn't hunt myself as I would be thinking of Basil Brush, but didn't some report or other come out with it as the best way.

David Vance

Aileen,

Boom Boom! I agree with you and Mad.

Ultonian Scottis American

Several years back, hunting was prohibited in a New York state park. Soon, the starving deer created a crisis, a partial result being that great swathes of trees were killed by deer girdling them for food. Too many to transport, or continue to feed by airdrops, they had to be slaughtered by hunters anyway.

Peter

"It is only the metrosexual 'luvvies' of Cafe Late Islingtonia who wanted to ban hunting..

Total crap Andrew. Opinion polls have shown a majority on Britain in favour of a ban for many years.

Madradin Ruad

Peter - I remember reading that different wordings gave different results.

"Would you like to see thousands of hounds shot and thousands of foxes meet a slow paiful death by poisoning" gets a different result from " Do you think toffs should be allowed to be bad to ickle Basil Brush ".

mc

The motivation of the ban was undoubtedly inverse snobbery. And a distraction from a multitude rebellions was helpful for Blair.
Talked about this issue with a PETA lentil muncher, and asked her how she felt about the thousands of hounds that were bound to be shot.
"Err people will take them in as pets.."
Yes a nice blood thirsty hound is an ideal pet for the young family.

Madradin Ruad

Having worked with them - there's next to no chance of them being homed - they are kennel and pack dogs. Not house trained. Not domesticated. Puppies being born could be made pets. But the rest would be shot.

Sian

A fox supposedly accidentally flushed from cover in a South Wales hunt, turned on the dogs biting one and causing the other to apparently die of fright.
The fox made its great escape much to the annoyance of the hunt supporters and the Hunt it self

That the best news I have come across all week well done the fox....
Sian

Todd

Anyone who has seen or actually gone hunting foxes would know the most humane method of the two is shooting them...

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