LUNDY JOINS PARADES COMMISSION!

I hooted, yes hooted with laughter at the composition of the new Parades Commission? Did you see it!! Apart from the usual lickspittles like trade unionist Roger Poole and quango queens like former Woman's Coalition member Annie Monaghan, Lundy himself has joined the PC! I refer to the former District Master of Portadown LOL1, David Burrows! David, who was Harold Gracey's number two for so many years, has now just morphed into a more permanent number two - i.e a slimy piece of s*it who takes the Government's thirty pieces of silver to sit on the body that he refused to recognise for years! Shame on him - although it explains his sudden and indeed mysterious decision to "stand down" as District Master after poor Harold died.  I weep for the Orange Order when it contains so many donkeys.

UPDATE: I note that an uberliberal halfwit "tell it like it is" kinda gal has been indulging in her usual poison rhetoric on this. Entertainingly, she thinks that the term Lundy should be a badge of honour if only us poor Unionists had her "intelligent" grasp on history.  I take the view that when the moonbat fraternity welcome the new PC stoolpigeons, my take on this is vindicated.

Comments

[Alex]

David Burrows may take his seat on the parades commission and then promptly resign. That would be the honourable thing to do and would send a message to Tony Blair that Unionsists and Orangemen can't be bought.

[iluvni]

I still laugh when I think of the headline in the Orange Standard a few years back...'Orange Balloons on the Twelfth'.

[David Vance]

Alex,

Well, yes I can agree with that. But he won't do it.

[RJM]

Isn't a current DUP member also amongst the appointments?

[David Vance]

RJM,

Yes! Gutless, aren't they?

[Ian Kennedy]

I thought that he had to stand down as District Master because he had an affair with another orangeman's wife. If true, that would mean immediate expulsion from the Orange Order.

[Jo]

"her usual poison rhetoric"

"a slimy piece of s*it "

Pot, Kettle?

(Hands up for the Most Concise Point-making Post Award?) :)

[David Vance]

No- hands stay down when moonbats flit across the screen. Your comments regarding those who do not see Mr Lundy's appointment as anything to welcome say plenty about you, Jo.

"300 years of conditioned Protestant predictable stupidity" - mmm...isn't that a tad...sectarian?

I mean, is it de rigeur in your circles to welcome Government appointees or is one permitted to challenge them?

Since Burrows spent years OPPOSING the Commission on which he sits, I see little wrong in pointing out the hypocrisy.

Moonbats are best advised to come out at night - during the day they're just a pest.

[Hugh Green]

The existence of a Parades Commission is a depressing reminder of how infantile people here can be.

I saw my first Apprentice Boys parade a couple of weeks back. It was even more boring than I had imagined. How anyone could be bothered protesting against these parades is a continual source of amazement.

[David Vance]

Hugh,

I wouldn't disagree with you - I have little time for them, but I do have time for the RIGHT to have them, if you know what I mean. Mind you, the AP are gutless donkeys...if there is such a beast.

[NRG]

David,

maybe we need to remember the "play the ball not the man" guideline that generally keeps ATW a cut above the rest? There is no value in simply preaching to the converted, Jo, et al should be welcome to air their views - odd and wrong though that they are.

[David Vance]

NRG,

Jo has not been banned though her odd views rarely lead anywhere.

Ian Kennedy,

Hard to imagine him as a silver tongued lothario. Have you heard him (try to) speak?

[levee]

David: Firstly, your frequent attacks on Jo reek of bullying tactics. I genuinely thought you were capable of a higher standard of debate.

Furthermore, a disappointing, naysaying attitude toward someone who is taking positive steps. For one thing, perhaps Burrows will be able to gain a grasp of the Nationalist issues involved in parading and perhaps he will be able to work with whatever opposite numbers toward resolving disputes.

In much the same way the Sinn Fein should get involved with policing and stop pressing this misguided CRJ, it's about time the Orange Order (and the DUP) got involved and tried to do something positive.

I sincerely hope that Burrows uses his newfound position to everyone's benefit and not as a blocking platform. And yes - the Lundy thing is getting old. Really old.

[David Vance]

Levee,

You usually articulate your argument with good grace and reason so I will temper my response to what you have written above.

First, I have noted the spite Jo has spewed forth on other sites re ATW and I note HER use of arguably sectarian language such as "the reflexive thinking of 300 years of conditioned Protestant predictable stupidity.." Sorry, but she doesn't get a bye on such tripe. As regards the level of argument I am capable of, I'll leave that for all to judge but if I have to deal with third rate "tell-it-like-it-is" kinda gals, I can. However, where we might agree is that I do think it a waste of time in the main. Some moonbats fly too high in the sky.

Now, as far as Burrows is concerned, where do I start? I suppose I could say that I know him personally and that I see nothing "positive" in quisling chicanery. I despise all quangos, PC included. I favour small government and maximum liberty - NI is the land of the quango kings/queens and so I will oppose these on a matter of philosophical political principle. The PC is undemocratic and unrepresentative and should go, who said that do you think? Clue - his first name is as mine but not his surname??!!

I can't stand hypocrites, and I don't care for vichy Orangemen for that matter. You say my Lundy comment is getting old. I would remind you that some truths are timeless and that what is getting older is the cliche that unionists have to acceopt every tatty trinket tossed their way by a Provo loving Government.

[levee]

David: Good response! Leaving aside your disagreement with Jo for the moment, I would say that Burrows has stepped up to the mark here!

You say he denounced the Parades Commission as undemocratic and unrepresentative. By joining up, he has made it more representative! If they didn't have an Orange voice on board before, they do now!

The Quango thing. Yep, I agree 100%. But what do you expect when we're not capable of governing ourselves properly? These institutions will spring up because of our own ineptitude (is that a word?). This is what I mean by positive steps - until people climb down off their high horses and start working together for solutions, we'll be doomed to repeat this forever.

Thanks again for such a good response.

[Pacman]

I'll bet Jo's daddy is bigger than your daddy DV. When she engenders this much bile from you, she must be doing something right.

[David Vance]

Well, my dad is unwell in hospital at the moment so if you'll pardon me, I'll do what I think it right.

[Jo]

"I have noted the spite Jo has spewed forth on other sites...and I note HER use of arguably sectarian language such as "the reflexive thinking of 300 years of conditioned Protestant predictable stupidity.."

Well I take my hat off to someone who recognises spite when he sees it, which is unsurprising as 99% of posts here reek of the stuff...but anyways...I simply thought of the most banal typical Protestant response to the Burrowes news that I could think of. Genuinely, before checking other sites, I offered a bet as to someone, somewhere coming out with a totally kneejerk conditioned response (*Lundy* being a term used almost exclusively by people of the Protestant faith and harks back to events more than 300 years ago).

Its fighting against that sort of response that typifies my response to such news, irrespective of whether Im of the Protestant faith or not, and I have no intention of spelling out which church I belong to. Suffice to say that dissent is not being recognised by those who claim to represent it. If anyone is demonstrating dissent here, its Mr Burrowes and I.

In the spirit of intellectual inquiry, I expect to be lambasted with accusations of self-loathing (from those who perceive me to be Protestant) or sectarianism(by those who perceive me to be Catholic) or castigated that my argument is baseless because Lundy's act of *betrayal* didn't happen PRECISELY 300 years ago (1705)

Interestingly had Lundy's plan been successful, a lot more of Derry Protestants probably would have survived the siege, but then his effort to save Protestant lives is of no consequence give his demonisation over time.

[Andres Abbott]

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