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October 21, 2005

Beating Backsides

Attack Have a look at this disturbing picture. This is the face of 12-year old Shanni Naylor who was slashed by a pupil of the same age when she bravely intervened against a bully during an English class at the Myrtle Springs School in Sheffield.  This poor girl will be scarred for life, with psychological implications for her self-worth and, perhaps, regrettably, her ability to find a partner in later life.  This is what the youth of today are capable of.  I tell you this, if it had been my son or daughter who had been attacked in such a way, the perpetrator would have to take the next flight to Nicaragua and re-settle in the jungle far from civilisation to ensure their own safety.

Ruth Kelly, the female Satchmo, is to bring forward proposals to restore discipline in schools.  As to be expected we will hear much about the softly, softly, cream-puff, 'don't physically hurt the little cherubs' powers concerning detention, the role of teachers, parental responsibility and all the rest of the unadulterated cobblers that has been the hallmark of school discipline for the last 25 years.  What we should be hearing is government consent to a teacher dragging the likes of the scumbag who defaced Ms Naylor down to the Headmaster's (yes, 'HeadMASTER'S!!') Office to receive a caning they wouldn't forget for a very, very long time.

Society is out of control.  And it is so because the fundamental corrective methods of instilling pain (and a damn good hiding is the only thing that many kids will finally understand) are forsaken for attempts at psychobabble wordplay on 'the rights of the child' (sweet FA about the 'rights' of those on the receiving end of their thuggish brutality).  The consequences are members of a profession which now has one of the highest sickness rates in the public sector.  If Bolton's own 'Deep Throat' honestly wants to begin remedial action on 'knocking' some manners and discipline into the viral rabble that now haunts so many of our school, maybe she should thing about the re-introduction of a three-foot bamboo stick.

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When my friend finished his teacher-training education he decided that one of the best methods of child-control would be the cattle-prod.

I laughed heartily. Then I saw he meant it. Now we know why...

http://www.myrtlesprings.sheffield.sch.uk/Newsletter.htm

The schools website makes interesting reading. It's like a New Labour dream. Targets achievments etc. Maybe this was an unfortunate once-off. But I fear there is more spin than substance to Education policy in Britain.

Andrew,

I would hope that she does find a partner - you don't often get bravery like that and IMHO its far superior to mere good looks.

As I said in some earlier thread, we rarely smack our children, as its not always the most effective discipline, but in some cases its necessary. But effective discipline is necessary - even in adult life.

The animal who sliced this girls face needs to be tortured. and I mean that The parents of the animal need to have any children in their care removed the animal and his parents need to be prosicuted, and then the nice poor misguided youth needs to share a cell for the next five years with a someone thats been convicted of child molestation

"I had told Shanni to apologise to the bully, even though she was trying to do the right thing..." This is the part I don't agree with in the article. Why should Shanni Naylor have to apologise to anyone for anything? Her attacker should be doing all the apologising not only to Shanni, but to the young boy she was bullying in the first place.

Shanni Naylor should be getting a medal. And her attacker's parents should be picking up the medical costs that have and will incur for Shanni's face.

Punishment for wrong doers, you've got to be kidding! It would hurt the little darlings feelings for cryingoutloud! [sarcasm off]

Times like this Sharia law doesn't look so bad. The dirtbird that did this should be flogged.

I'm with Madradin on this one. Maybe flogged once a month might be a reasonable variation.

One mistake that I've seen in schools is a policy of disciplining any students for fighting, even in self-defence.

The problem is too many school administers buying into "any violence is always bad", rather than "violence is sometimes necessary to protect yourself or others".

The attacker has ego-dominance feelings probably pumped up way too high by silly and dangerous schemes to raise self-esteem.

I hope that Shanni does get a medal for heroism. It's the least that society can do to show that defending others is the noble thing to do.

The "zero tolerance" policy towards violence, even when it is used in self-defense, in schools is unfortunately echoed here in the United States. Bullies are an unfortunate aspect of childhood and they should be dealt with by their fellow students with the same force they dish out. It's a sad thing that's happened to this dear, brave girl, but with corrective surgery being what it is today, it's very hopeful that the scars can be repaired to nearly invisible. I doubt she will have trouble finding a life partner just because of this injury; people with far worse marry and have happy, fulfilled lives.

I don't think that we should forget, as much as he deserves swift punishment, that the perpetrator of this horrible act is indeed a child himself. Suggesting torture and kiddie rape for something that he will hopefully deeply regret as an adult is despicable.

It's a shame. Here in the US it is the same. Kids who defend themselves are in the same amount of trouble and receive the same punishment as the perpetrator. One more reason to homeschool.

This is not what we want to teach our children - that they cannot defend themselves and that standing up to an abuser requires an apology. Pisses me off.

It really pisses me off.

I don't think that she needs to worry about finding a partner. We all have our scars and imperfections and for real, for real - most of us don't judge people on those imperfections. It is not something that you see or even notice anymore when you know and love a person. She will be fine.

There was a thread on the 'sheffield forum' where it was alleged that the girl/s in question were 'Asian', a fact conveniently left out by the MSM (Picked up by Laban Tall). However I cant access it, might just be my annoying PC or then again it might not...

I go to school with shanni she was one of my friends and i could kill the girl that did it to her

SCARRED schoolgirl Shanni Naylor punched her attacker "like a boxer" in a playground fight the day before she was slashed across the face with a blade, a court heard.
Shanni, now aged 13, squared up to the girl and punched her again and again, so powerfully that the girl's head slammed into a wall, Sheffield Crown Court was told.
A teacher who witnessed the attack - which was watched by a mob of 100 fellow pupils - described it as "vicious"...

She said: "Shanni was standing in front of her with clenched fists. She was standing square like a boxer. The girl was punched again and again, so hard it slammed her head into the wall.
"I was looking on in absolute horror. It was vicious. I couldn't believe what I had seen."
In a police interview read to the court, the defendant told police she was hungry because she had been fasting for the Muslim festival of Ramadan.
She admitted she had 'scratched' her classmate in the face in revenge for the punches to her face..

How interesting. Another side to the story.

How interesting. Another side to the story.

wow a story with two sides, how bizarre ;)

but one truth.

but one truth.

Says who?

well I've just said it but I suspect your question goes deeper, please elaborate.

Just that it's not difficult to argue that truth is a matter of perspective and degree. Our perceptions affect our beliefs, and vice versa.

I don't mean that in just a wishy washy sense either - there's plenty of science to support such a view.

Also the idea that there is such a thing as The Truth is probably responsible for more human misery than any other. Especially as it is almost always accompanied with "...and we know what it is".

Frank

I disagree. Truth is not a matter of perspective. Individual perception may be.

I hardly think this girl will have any trouble getting a partner later in life. For one, she is beautiful, and for another, I think the scars just make her pretty eyes and mouth stand out even more.

Why the obsession with whether she will find partner when she is older? How archaic are you to think that this is everyone's ultimate goal? And on top of that would you have made the same comment if the victim was a boy?

I think you should all do a little more research. Shanni Naylor was the bully. She had attacked the girl earlier in they, punching her repeatedly in the face, in what a witness called a horrendous attack.

So, she was the bully, and suffered the consequenced.

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