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August 10, 2005

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Peter

DV, if you can remember back to Harold Wilson (for younger readers the Labour PM in the 60's and 70's) as I can, he hated the BBC for its pro-Tory bias and fell out with it completely during the second general election in 1974 - which he won despite the BBC as he said afterwards.

In the 1980's Labour complained about many prominent BBC news staff being blatantly pro-Thatcher, such as Robin Day (knighted by Thatcher).

For what it's worth, I think many of the BBC hierarchy will never forgive Blair for the Hutton Report on the David Kelly affair in 2003, which cost the BBC both its Director General and Chairman. My guess is that they are mostly Lib-Dem these days, not Labour.

The Troll

Television should never be paid for with tax money. It's one of the most ridiculas crimes perpitrated on the masses.

Monica-Philadelphia

Sort of like our Public Broadcasting System (PBS)and National Public Radio(NPR). NPR is blatantly left leaning - PBS is a bit, too. Case in point - The Cookie Monster doesn't eat cookies anymore. (Cookies aren't GOOD for you!!)

heymanhowman

I agree with Peter's last point, "Spit The Dummy Out" Yellow is the BBC's colour of choice, nowadays.

levee

David, how could you have overlooked the effect of the Hutton Report?

Monica - well done, working Sesame Street into political debate!

Hugh Green

Laura Bush appeared on the Egyptian version of Sesame Street recently.

Hugh Green

I am also beginning to conclude the BBC's news reporting is generally biased in favour of the Labour government's agenda. However if I were a license payer I would not be in favour of throwing the baby out with the bathwater by scrapping the BBC altogether.

Rather than operate under a pretence of impartiality (which is impossible - no-one is impartial), would it be better to somehow recognise bias more explicitly and deliver more diverse reporting? That seems far more democratic.

Jo

er...as regards bias, don't people remember Greg Dyke? I daresay his favourable views of Noo Labour have somewhat changed in the last couple of years...

Jo

Just on Sesame Street, does anyone know where or if this is currently shown on any UK channel at present? :)

beano

The cookie monster doesn't eat cookies? I can't believe that! I think I'm actually more angry about that than the BBC reports mentioned above - you come to expect nothing less from the beeb.

Todd

Didn't the cookies always fall out of his mouth!. I always thought what a waste, mainly as I wanted those same cookies.

David Vance

Peter,

I think you are right - they are very pro-Glib-Dem's because they are even further to the left than Labour. I perceive the BBC to be leftist so they gravitate to whichever party is most left.

Mike  Cunningham

The test of intellectual freedom surely is to hear, or present, both sides of any argument! If you believe that the BBC is failing in this respect, say something!
If enough listeners complain, not to the B.B.C., but instead to their own individual M.P.'s, there might be a surprising outcome!
The more maverick the M.P., the more time they are willing to donate to causes which otherwise might not strike a chord with the general public!
Your M.P. is there to serve YOU, and not, as many believe, their Party line! So, for some who may not be aware that this facility exists, try Write To Them, type in your Post code, and tell your democratically-elected representative that you think the BBC is shit/great (cross out whichever does not comply with your own prejudices)!

James G.

Just on Sesame Street, does anyone know where or if this is currently shown on any UK channel at present?

Jo,
I seem to recall hearing that a certain Broadcasting Corporation refused to carry it because the arguments between Bert and Ernie were not an appropriate way for people to work out their differences. (Can't remember the provenance of said bit of information, so treat merely as hearsay...)

If only they'd look closer...It was not until a couple of years ago that I realised that Bert and Ernie could, just possibly, be a multiracial cohabiting couple...The only evidence to the contrary being their separate single beds, but then those sorts of beds were de rigueur for married couples on American TV up to a certain point. (Remember Sesame Street started in the early 70s)

David Vance

James,

I will NEVER look at Bert and Ernie in the same light again. Any thoughts on what to make of Big Bird?

James G.

I will NEVER look at Bert and Ernie in the same light again.

Another hapless victim of trauma...My work here is complete...Mwahahahahaha!!!

As far as Big Bird goes, to cast him in a multi-culti light, perhaps he/she is a representative of hermaphroditic acromegaly sufferers?

Monica-Philadelphia

I've often thought that Bert and Ernie's living arrangement was strange. (even as a young'un)

Cookie Monster is now the Vegitable Monster or the Yogurt Monster or something like that.

What are you implying about Big Bird? He's just happy - that's all - just happy.

The Troll

The outrage is that it is funded by tax payer money.

Peter

Troll, the BBC is funded by a licence fee paid directly to it, not by tax revenues.

Colm

Troll

Technically it isn't. It is funded by homeowners or tenants who own a televison set and are required to pay an annual license fee for it. It is possible to be a taxpayer in the UK and not have to fund the BBC.

Overall compared to digital/cable subscription fees' the BBC is good value for money . Incidentally The BBCi website is by far the best amd most comprehensive in the world.

The Troll

Thats like saying the gasolene tax isn't a tax if you don't drive. If the broadcasts are paid for with public funds through a license(tax) or a direct tax it's still an outrage. Let them have to get their financial support via advertisors if the show is good the advertisers pay top dollar because people watch if the show puts out crap less people watch an the less revenue they can generate I know its a novel approach to you

The Troll

So tell me if you own a TV can you not pay the licence? if the answer is no then its a tax

The Troll

I have a licence to drive. I have a licence to carry a gun. I don't need a licence to WATCH TV

The Troll

as for the BBCi over here on the cable system its called "On Demand"

Colm

Troll

Sorry we may be at cross purposes here. I meant the BBC website in general not a cable channel. The Index to what's on it is amazing. It's available free to anyone in the world with an internet connection.

It may surprise you but there really isn't that much opposition in the UK to the license fee. We all grumble about it but generally it is recognised as the best way to provide the comprehensive diverse and in the main quality broadcast culture the BBc provides. It may not be approproate for the States and your ethos about such publically funded bodies, but it suits us here in the UK. It's part of our culture we're proud of it - we don't all have to do things the same way. Not everything has to follow the free market.

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