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August 01, 2005

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Peter

Excellent post DV. The problem with Islam in Britain is that it cuts itself off from mainstream society in lots of ways. Unlike, say hindus who have on the whole integrated into UK society, muslims have stayed separate and the most recent examples of this are the demands for faith schools and the right to wear the hijab at state schools. Both demands must be resisted in the interests of a cohesive society.

David Vance

Peter,

Hindus are a great example of how people can integrate in the very best tradition of a melting pot. What really annoys me is that those such as Cherie Blair actually have fought for the right for Muslims to be separate and wear their hijab!!!!!!!!

Peter

They had the same problem in France but the French government stood firm and banned the hijab from schools. There is a test case in the UK about this at the moment.

David Vance

Peter,

That's right. It's so depressing to figure that despite French rhetoric when it comes to raelity they have more balls than Blair ever will. They're trying to defend the French Republic, Blair is pretending to do something whilst in reality those such as HIS WIFE undermine the necessary integration of ethnic groups.

Peter

This is from the editorial in yesterday's Observer, a good example of how liberal opinion has moved against Cherie Blair and her ilk:

"This question of what is and what isn't British is crucial. Britain has tilted far too far towards multi-culturalism. We should encourage people to bring their skills, energy, culture and breadth to our country but those we welcome should not be allowed to live in cultural ghettoes. We should not aim to be an umbrella nation sheltering a range of separate ethnic and religious groups but a single nation with far more of a single identity. Core British values should be part of everybody's lives. There should be compulsory English lessons for new arrivals and a comprehensive programme of tuition, backed by significant incentives, for the thousands immigrants, some living in the UK for decades, who speak only Urdu or Arabic. And immigrants need to recognise that rights bring responsibilities. No one has a right to wear a veil in a playground. Faith schools run counter to the building of an inclusive British identity."

David Vance

Good stuff Peter - delighted to read it!

Colm

David

I bet it's not often your delighted by an Observer editorial

David Vance

Colm,

True, but I'm broad-minded enough to recognise sense from wherever it comes!!!

The Troll

That would even have to be (regretfully) in the case of the french. They have banned the wearing of the Burka in public "any article that hides the face" and have made it subject to a fine that would equal $3000 I think thats what 1500pounds.

The Troll

The dirty little secret is profiling works.

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