Did you note that republicans are continuing their terror tactics by leaving a car bomb in Lurgan, my local town? You can read the salient details here. As Government recklessly tears down our security barriers Northern Ireland is left exposed and totally vulnerable to these attacks from manical republicans. Had this bomb exploded as planned, lives would have been lost - ironically it would have been overwhelmingly nationalists that died given the location of where the car containing the bomb was parked by some republican goon from Kilwilkie. Government is playing fast and loose with our lives in a vain attempt to appease the IRA. The fact is that terrorism will not wither and die away when one bunch of killers sees another bunch being treated as heroes and rewarded by a gutless and morally bankrupt government.
David - bit unfair surely ?
the car containing the bomb was parked by some republican goon from Kilwilkie
The report you link suggests it was a proxy bomb. Republicans are even more cowardly than Jihadists.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | August 10, 2005 at 02:07 PM
Sick bastards. There is no justification whatsoever for proxy bombing. Not even in Lurgan.
Posted by: Hugh Green | August 10, 2005 at 02:48 PM
"Not even Lurgan"...what does THAT mean?
MR,
I hear it had explosive capability, whatever that means.
Posted by: David Vance | August 10, 2005 at 02:58 PM
"Did you note that republicans are continuing their terror tactics..."
That's tantamount to saying that Unionists were intimidating people out of their homes on an East Belfast housing estate or petrol bombing catholic families in Ahoghill.
Your use of words misrepresents the facts. For "republicans" read - a couple of deranged individuals who want to trip up mainstream republicans and their support for the GFA.
I for one condemn such acts, as I too condemn the ongoing loylist feud that is needlessly claiming more lives.
Posted by: DaithiO | August 10, 2005 at 03:30 PM
I'd be interested to see if David will acknowledge that proxy bombers are more cowardly than suicide bombers.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | August 10, 2005 at 03:36 PM
...wasnt it a taxi driver who actually was supposed to leave it at the PSNI station, but didnt - and phoned the police? I thought that was actually quite brave of him/her...
Posted by: Jo | August 10, 2005 at 03:38 PM
Jo - and Ironic that the bomb ended up abandoned outside GAA premises - although sensible as it was the safest place, certainly better than beside houses.
DiathiO - "a couple" ? How about the riff-raff that attacked the police who were trying to deal with the device ? Imagine the howls if they had said - let the thing go off, it's only a sports ground.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | August 10, 2005 at 03:41 PM
MR,
Great point - you expose DaithiO's unfortunate blindness to the pavlovian tendency of Lurgan republicans to attack the forces of law and order at the drop of a hat. I know this from years of observing such malignancy.
I consider ALL terrorists to be cowards - not sure that proxy bombers can be morally "more cowardly" than other terrorists.
Posted by: David Vance | August 10, 2005 at 04:18 PM
If I may be so bold as to attempt to say what I think MR meant.
In the purely literal sense a suicide bomber is less cowardly than one who bombs others without putting himself through the blast. Less cowardly does not mean less evil though.
Posted by: Colm | August 10, 2005 at 04:29 PM
Whilst condemning ALL terrorists perhaps you could also be even handed enough to condemn ALL those who attack the PSNI/RUC.
I don't think nationalists have a monopoly on that.
Posted by: DaithiO | August 10, 2005 at 04:30 PM
DaithiO,
Have you READ my post "The Disloyal Loyalists"? Do keep up.
Colm,
I see terrorists in terms of evil - not bravery/cowardice. It's black and white.
Posted by: David Vance | August 10, 2005 at 04:36 PM
I don't see why your all so upset. I mean come on its a PC bomb. The govt has decided its OK as long as it wasn't planted by a muslim right.
The peace loving SF an the disarmed IRA have to dispose of their weapons somehow. Thats what the bomb really was the SF/IRA disposing of their arms as they promised
Posted by: The Troll | August 10, 2005 at 06:28 PM
Don't know what that Hugh Green person means when he says 'There is no justification whatsoever for proxy bombing. Not even in Lurgan.'
Does he mean that ordinary bombing is alright, or that Lurgan is somehow a place where boming is alright. I was in Lurgan only last week and the only thing wrong with the place is the republican scum who live there.
Posted by: David Gough | August 10, 2005 at 10:35 PM
David Gough,
There is a rebellious republican part of the town as you point out and as for Kilwilkie estate......don't start me talking, I could talk all night..
Posted by: David Vance | August 10, 2005 at 10:48 PM
MR and Colm, there's nothing brave about suicide bombers. They are would-be mass-murderers in each and every case. Calling them brave merely helps them recruit more to their evil cause by promoting a myth of noble self-sacrifice.
The truth is that they are religious fanatics filled with hatred and deluded by the lie of an afterlife in paradise, as a reward for their butchery.
Posted by: Peter | August 10, 2005 at 11:46 PM
Peter - nobody said that suicide bombers were brave ... BUT it is beyond doubt that these republican proxy bombers are even more cowardly. Both are equally evil and will answer for their crimes to God.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | August 11, 2005 at 12:22 AM
David - there are some decent people living in Kilwilkie just as there are some decent people living in Mournview. It's not right to tar all the people in these areas with the same brush.
Posted by: Madradin Ruad | August 11, 2005 at 12:24 AM
"David - there are some decent people living in Kilwilkie"
Correct MR
I have quite a few friends from Kilwilkie and find them to be decent people.
It's a working-class republican estate, do you expect them to greet the RUC/PSNI with open arms?
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | August 11, 2005 at 04:03 AM
I was also on the Crumlin Road last week and passed two police cars on the way to a murder scene. Those concerned on that particular occasion were Loyalist scum. For a province which is supposed to be at peace it certainly has a strange way of showing it.
Posted by: David Gough | August 11, 2005 at 07:12 AM
David Gough,
Some people are too sensitive. I was joking.
Posted by: Hugh Green | August 11, 2005 at 07:37 AM
"It's a working-class republican estate, do you expect them to greet the RUC/PSNI with open arms?"
Chris, only the Sinn Fein rule book would decide that republicans can't trust the police. Get yourself on the DPP and even things up!
Republicans have the power to change policing, but they choose to sit outside and complain. If Sinn Fein had sat on the periphery, do you think the 'peace process' would have happened?
Posted by: levee | August 11, 2005 at 07:44 AM
"Chris, only the Sinn Fein rule book would decide that republicans can't trust the police. Get yourself on the DPP and even things up!"
Not true levee, I know from the door steps that many Republicans, about 75%, would never support what the sdlp signed up to, whether Sinn Féin signed up or not.
I am one of that 75%
"If Sinn Fein had sat on the periphery, do you think the 'peace process' would have happened?"
No
Posted by: Chris Gaskin | August 11, 2005 at 02:00 PM
Hugh Green,
To be perfectly honest, apart from bombs, Lurgan does not appear to be the kind of place that kinda lights up at night.
Posted by: David Gough | August 11, 2005 at 03:21 PM
Peter
I never said suicide bombers were 'brave' - If you read my comments above I just jumped in and answered a question aimed at MR in which I agreed the indisputable fact that a suicide bomber is in purely literal terms less cowardly than a 'plant it and run and hide' bomber. It wasn't a moral judgement.
Posted by: Colm | August 11, 2005 at 05:00 PM
peter explain to me what is more moral about planting a bomb to kill people and running away, compared to blowing yourself up with the bomb as you kill people?
I didn't know there was a moral way of commiting terror.
Posted by: The Troll | August 12, 2005 at 03:35 AM